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Message: [QUOTE="Renegade, post: 3510076, member: 1928"] OK - so my interpretation isn't far off. There is a moment where Pat is entirely off the ground while grabbing around the thighs and pulling down/backward. Obviously it is split second and more obvious in slow mo but it isn't far off the definition. Don't get me wrong, not defending the decision, but can see where the confusion comes in. It's another shoulder charge scenario, it will take a season or so to change tackling habits. [/QUOTE]

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