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Message: [QUOTE="rnabokov, post: 3152440, member: 1847"] Double standards? Oh come on Huge, fat shaming is all about bigotry and discrimination. It's playing the man and not the ball. Whether Seibold is fat or not has absolutely nothing to do with his qualities as a coach. It's no more and no less than a put down, a personal attack. I want no part of that shit. When I called Hoppa an idiot or Ikin a **** it was focused on what they did or said, my criticisms of their public actions and pronouncements, not their humanity. Context is everything. Which is why I didn't call Hoppa a fat idiot or Ikin a fat ****. Their body size is irrelevant to what they did or said. I was fat shamed relentlessly when I was a kid and it fucking hurt me and left scars. As much as when I was called a wop and a dago for being Polish. That hurt too. As Byron said, what deep wounds ever heal without a scar. As for your comment on Fatty Vautin, you said it yourself. It had nothing to do with him being fat. I'm really surprised you can't see the difference. And, as for you calling yourself a fat ****, I did too when I was fat, and it is exactly fat shaming. After one lives with the stigma of being fat you internalise it and end up believing it and your self worth suffers. That's why anorexia is such a big deal, which it was for me, because I didn't want to be a fat ****, something everyone kept reminding me of constantly as I grew up. [/QUOTE]

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