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Message: [QUOTE="Big Pete, post: 2753340, member: 1899"] Nathan is Ivan's son. Panthers re-signed him a couple of weeks ago and wasted no time calling him up to first grade. Hasn't set the world on fire as of yet but there's been plenty of positive signs. It may sound controversial, but the pros outweigh the negatives in terms of picking him ahead of Soward. I'm just unsure of Cartwright at 6. I suppose if Will Smith could get the job done in 2014, then Cartwright can at least get them into the 8. A long term Martin/Cleary halves combination is promising, albeit illusory. [/QUOTE]

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