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Message: [QUOTE="Mustafur, post: 3598342, member: 10189"] to be fair though it's hard to take too much given if Oates was in the game it wouldn't go the same way given his differing playstyle. elements before and after would change because of it. I'm still very pro Arthars, even though Mariner had a great game and showed his skill he is behind Arthars for me at this point, Arthars in my view is one of the most secure outside backs under pressure in the entire game. Given it's naturally a very high error position that holds status for me. [/QUOTE]

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