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Message: [QUOTE="BroncsFan, post: 3376272, member: 9052"] I think we're really struggling to figure out when to go with the forwards and when to go sideways. We seem to almost exclusively follow a formula on the get out sets, whereby we have runs from Herbie and Oates and typically three runs from the middles comprising Haas and Carrigan, and then either Haas again or another forward. I think it's just too predictable and they allow themselves to have no feel for the game or how the defence is reacting to it. If there's a quick ptb Turpin should be running... if Herbie gets a quick ptb on tackle 2/3 keep following it up with outside backs and get the roll on through the ruck... we don't need to go to Haas and co every single set. It fatigues the middle and at times halts the momentum created by the quick ptb. Similar to the formulaic approach that we have for the get out sets, it's like we just decide "ok time to go for a spread out to Kotoni or Herbie", but we don't seem to confirm that it's actually on by what the defensive line are presenting, before we pull the trigger on the play. If it's not on then the defence just rushes up and shuts it down before it can happen and several times Kotoni has been smashed by the winger or center, because it is so telegraphed and slow that the defence is instantly in position. In the good old days we would go from one side of the field to the other with 3 passes (Macca > Wallace > Lockyer) and the fullback, center or second rower has it with a bit of space in front of them and the defence unable to adjust their compressed line... at the moment it's Turpin (stutter step) > middle (Carrigan, Kobe, etc.) taking it to the line and telegraphing a dump out the back to the edge half. It's too congested and too slow to catch anyone out, and it's amplified by trying to do it on a slow ptb or a nothing ptb. When I watch the storm it seems like the quick ptb is the trigger. The middles know their role is to create one and as soon as it hits it goes to the backline. The whole team know that when a quick ptb happens it's on and they all start moving forward. We don't seem to have any idea what to do when a quick ptb happens. [/QUOTE]

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