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Message: [QUOTE="OXY-351, post: 2481200, member: 2107"] I agree with what you're saying, but if the ref's keep on letting them get away with such plays, they'll keep on coming up with them. I don't think anything affects a game these days more than penalties. The competition is so close that often peantlies can decide a game. If ref's penalised the hell out of the storm for their dubious plays, you can bet they'd stop doing them. The problem is at the moment they get more benefit out of them than harm. I also don't think you can say that most penalties aren't trained. The most penatlies these days seem to be for in the ruck infringements, and mostly for trying to slow the play the ball down by various means. Given most teams have wrestlign coaches, you can't tell me that's not practiced. All teams push the boundaries on how effectively they can slow down play. Is that not illegal? Again though, the effect on a game that can have all comes down to the ref's. [/QUOTE]

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