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Message: [QUOTE="uptheguts, post: 2669487, member: 8474"] I agree with this summation. This is near identical to the Thaiday try disallowed by video refs in Origin 2 last year . We really need a clarification on this by the head ref . As the skill of defenders to find a way to stop tries continue to reach new levels , this question is bound to come up again and again.The video refs need to have a clear rule to go by which includes all the permeatations eg grounding on loose ball by torso only , regather before grounding,or regather when simultaneously grounding. Does the video ref have to decide the whether the dislodging it was intentional or unintentional? I think it makes a difference when the ball is knocked out by a hand as compared to a shoulder. The more you think about it the more complicated it gets. [/QUOTE]

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