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Message: [QUOTE="Renegade, post: 2580345, member: 1928"] This is not entirely true. You see people like Bellamy, Toovey, Hasler, even people like Cartwright are frank and honest in their assessments at times. They show emotion, they look like they give a shit and are bothered by the result/performance. Griffin rarely if ever does. All we hear is, squad did well, going in the right direction, /insert empty feel good cliche here. When has anyone ever heard Griffin go, mate we were deadshit shithouse and it was not good enough, some players really let down the squad and it was disappointing to see? You don't see it because Griffin doesn't say it. [/QUOTE]

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