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Message: [QUOTE="Hamm.0, post: 2438042, member: 1852"] I'm sorry I should have made myself more clear; it's my belief that the RLIF and ARL should allow players eligible to rep. minnow countries (any country other than NZ, UK, AS) to rep. their eligible countries without affecting their SoO chances. On Carroll, he has been here since he was like 7. I personally know he played for Waterford Demons JRLFC in under 10's. He always considered himself an Aussie and sort direction from the ARL and RLIF to ensure before playing for NZ, it wouldn't hurt his SoO eligibility. Onto your first point Force, I completely disagree and we will have to agree to disagree. To me, there's nothing LESS Australian, than someone who has been in this country forever (10+) years who supports another country OVER Australia in any sport. It's abhorred that somebody could honestly not want to assimilate on the sporting field, much like not assimilating in society in general. WNG Hammo's Rant; If you have lived here for 20 years, but still consider yourself a "kiwi" and rock a silver fern on your car, you're a douche IMO and a drain on the greatest country in the world. If one of my Asian mates gets asked where he comes from, he replies "Woodridge". A Tongan mate of mine, born Sydney bred Brisbane was asked in a pub, "you probably support the All Blacks hey?” He was very offended not because he's Tongan, but because after 12 years in the Army he's more Australian than half the "white" people in the pub. He supports Tonga in everything, until they play Australia. IMO that attitude extends onto the sporting field as well. There's nothing at all wrong with celebrating your families culture, however take pride in the country which you now live in. [/QUOTE]

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