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Message: [QUOTE="Ari Gold, post: 2587544, member: 1917"] I don't recall any flicks from Sam, but SJ had at least one. SJ's skills were simply sublime on Saturday. As for Sam being a failure, I don't think it's something you can measure statistically so it's hard to outline a set of stats he needs to produce. To be a failure, he would need to be bad in defence and only ever excel in attack during broken play and make bad decisions as a playmaker. There's a possibility he fails in defence but does better in attack, which I wouldn't qualify as being a success, but at the same time not a failure either. Overall though, I think his success or failure is dependent on just two areas 1) not being a liability in defence; and 2) making excellent decisions as a playmaker and showing great ball playing skills, much like he did on the weekend. For the record, I don't ever except him to be an asset in defence, just neutral. I also don't think his strong, whippet like runs really count as a success either, as IMO it's a given he'll do these well when given the staggered line, just as it's a given he won't consistently save tries the way someone like Slater can. For mine it is mostly about playmaking. People often talk about his running but for mine it is his playmaking that makes him a potentially outstanding player. If he stops making great decisions when coming in as 2nd man I think he fails, even if he scores 15 tries from his running abilities. The other measurable is SJ. Tomkins playmaking should take the load off SJ, allowing him to play more freely. If people don't look at Tomkins and SJ at the end of the year as an extremely effective combination of playmakers, particularly down the right edge, again, I think he fails. But to be clear, I really don't think he needs to be an asset in defence to be a success. As long as he's not a big liability, I feel he should essentially be evaluated as a five-eight (hence why I don't think his running really counts as a success, nor should a lack of tries be seen as a failure). [/QUOTE]

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