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Message: [QUOTE="JayPee, post: 3572251, member: 9256"] I assume you are talking about short drop outs? I commented on this in the post game grand final thread. I cannot understand the logic that it is high risk. It isn't at all depending on if you know when to do it and when not. I have said this before but you should always do a short drop out when you are up 4, 6, 10, 20, 50 etc. No risk at all. Obviously don't do it when you are up 2 because not kicking it 10m, out on the full etc is an easy penalty kick in front to tie the game. When you are down. Do not do it when you are tied or down 4, 6, 10, 12, 16, 18 etc. Obviously when it starts getting above those numbers you may aswell because you are getting smoked and it is probably worth it to change momentum. Or if there is 1min left you do it know matter what because you need the ball. Basically the logic is teams will take the 2 if you stuff it to go up in converted tries or past a converted try. Eg if you are a down 10 and you don't kick it 10m 90% of teams are kicking that penalty goal to go up 12. The average dropout goes say 50m? By the time the defensive line gets to the "prop" in this example the best the defensive line makes the tackle is the 30m for tackle 1? A short drop out goes 10m to 15m. If the team on the attack doesn't bat the ball back to one of their teammates out to say the 20m line which happens alot. So you are really only costing yourself 15m at most or 20m if you stuff the short drop out and they take a tap 10m out and get tackled 5m out. That's why I don't understand the push back on it. If you know when to do it every team should do it because the reward of getting the ball back outweighs the extra 15 to 20m on the defensive set. Not to mention deflating the team that you do it on. You finally apply pressure through a nice kick and the other team gets the ball back. Using the grand final as an example in my strategy reynolds should not have went the short drop out down 6 because it is too risky to go down 8 which is more than a converted try. The short drop out for the try is just unlucky and guys not doing their assignment. It was a perfect kick. That would have been deflating for Penrith if capewell just took the ball or a teammate was behind waiting. Those two ones in the 2nd half by reynolds was great strategy. They were up 4. Penrith aren't taking the 2 down 4. Cleary made a special play and so did Martin (was a difficult catch). The strategy was even better because the wind was apparently howling so the average 50m drop out would not have been attainable. Sorry about the long post but I couldn't believe how much people were complaining about it. I have constantly harped on about it when teams don't do it in the game threads. It's dumb imo. It's basic strategy. Somebody alot smarter than me could probably explain it better. [/QUOTE]

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