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Message: [QUOTE="Twbapony, post: 3180028, member: 10408"] When you have a 337 game veteran who can't play without serious coaching the playing group is just as culpable. I think the read the hate of Pies, and clocked off knowing that he was going to take the bullet that was meant for them. Pies was one problem, but certain players who have the experience, age and reputation to get through a game without being told to tackle the man with the ball are also the issue. Kevin, Paul, whoever will struggle in 2021 if these clowns aren't shown the door. Oates is one who springs to mind, an origin class whinger shouldn't have to be taught to stay out and mark his man, and he is only one example. [/QUOTE]

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