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[QUOTE="Dave, post: 2246809, member: 1763"] I just don't think Cest La Guerre is as good as Lloyd says he is - Alcopop is shorter in the market because he is in better form. There is no way he is a doubt at the 3200 and he has better staying form than CLG. I don't buy the "not proven at 3200m" argument - reality is that we only run 3 races at 3200 during the year and it would be impossible to have a horse ready for all 3 so it is very hard for them to "prove" themselves. I would be very surprised if, other than horses who have won more than one MC, any winning MC horse in recent history had actually won over 3200m before they won the cup. Alcopop may not win the cup this year but he is the prototype for modern day cup runners - progressive stayer with a really sharp sprint. I would take the $7 (If I hadn't already taken better odds) because I think he can win - I don't think CLG can so to me the $21 on offer for him is unders - unless the track is a bog he won't carry any of my hard earned. Efficient is Lloyd's best chance by far I reckon [/QUOTE]
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