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Message: [QUOTE="1910, post: 2842155, member: 8272"] I think success in under age teams doesn't mean success in Origin because that is what has always happened. Go back and look at Under 17 and Under 19 results and tell me you can see a pattern? It's all over the shop with success and failures. We switched to Under 16, 18 and 20's a few years ago and the same thing is happening. You get two or three players play Origin, probably five or six play NRL. Queensland lost the first four Under 18 games, not winning until 2012. But they won Origin before and after that. But out of those 18's side have come Papalli, McGuire, Milford, Morgan, O'Neill and Gagai. The result is secondary to what you're producing. Mind you it's nice if Queensland win everything. New South Wales might well win a few series and have a great era but I won't be crediting a week long 20's camp. As I said the QAS system is year long involvement and continual development of players. Not just week long camp and slap on the back see ya later. Queensland have had great success from it. The 2001 team produced Smith, Thurston, Shillington and Hannant. Four Origin players from 18/19's. You're completely ignoring every other pathway and just focusing on one by looking at just 20's results. The QAS 20's squad last year had Hess included- you now want him in Origin. [/QUOTE]

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