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Message: [QUOTE="Anonymous person, post: 2286296, member: 2115"] no, for any tackle where the referee tells the players when to release or its going to be a penalty. this is when the dominant/submission call makes the difference in how long a player gets held down. all im saying is it should be the same regardless of the tackle. im NOT saying that EVERY SINGLE TACKLE should take the MAXIMUM amount of time of being held on the ground, and dont even suggest thats even remotely what i said. use your brain. [/QUOTE]

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