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Message: [QUOTE="Kimlo, post: 3298089, member: 2021"] There's a difference between messing up and being toxic around the club. Haas would no doubt set the standards at training, that's a guy you want for team culture. Staggs I have no idea but you don't get as fit as Haas without being an elite trainer. They could both be great learners, and always looking to improve even if they do have a history of doing dumb things away from football. Not that I have any idea what TPJ/Lodge were like but I think it comes down to more than just off field indiscretions. [/QUOTE]

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