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Message: [QUOTE="Allo, post: 3633796, member: 8190"] We don't have enough tough players You see teams full of nobodies in other sides hit the ball up and make metres against any team in the comp. We couldn't get out of our own 40m I'm looking at players like Mariner, Oates, Riki, Piakura and our bench rotation. Payne, Patty and Jensen can only do so much With Flegler, Herbie and Palasia, we didn't necessarily need them to be doing that hard leg work. Now we do and they aren't up for it. I have never seen Riki have an 'attack' game or take his opposing edge on. He might score a try or setup a line break on occasion, but mostly he'll make his 30+ tackles and make 8 or 9 runs for about 80-100m. He has a decently good kick chase, but that's about it. Maybe now the pretty boy has a blemish he might start running harder at defensive lines without that useless shimmy that does nothing. Piakura is at the moment still a highlight player - can run an exceptional line but isn't going to make 15 runs a game rucking the ball up and his decision-defence is still terrible. He gets a bit more slack as he's still quite raw but he needs to be as well-rounded as other starting second-rowers by the end of the season, because he's on decent enough coin and walked into a starting spot without really earning it. He has to show that he deserves to keep it. Mariner is pretty much the same, highlight player but with speed, but is too similar to Brisbane-era Coates/Isaako with bonehead errors and gets manhandled trying to hit the ball up. He's in the same boat as Piakura with needing to show he deserves to keep his spot after staying for his contract Oates just isn't as effective anymore, has lost his speed and with that can't make up for his errors as easily. Hetherington is for me, the disappointment so far. He just isn't giving much either side of the ball at the moment and, I think along with no Reynolds, is why Patty is getting played into the ground. Drops the ball at least once a game, which when you only play 30-odd minutes is enough to warrant less and less until you're asking to be dropped. Seems to have lost his defensive sting and is now arm-grabbing. He really needs to aim up otherwise he could find himself on the outer quickly, which would suck because I like Kobe and want him to be as good as he can be Baker and Gos have already been talked about enough, but they aren't players that could outperform our starters either so we don't have that luxury to switch around like other teams seem to. Unless we can unearth someone on a development deal or whatever it is that we can do still, we'll be running at least two of these 3 on our bench for the rest of the year along with Willison. Te Kura likely won't be back for anything meaningful unfortunately to at the least put pressure on them, but likely replace one. [/QUOTE]

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