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Message: [QUOTE="Morkel, post: 3549729, member: 8215"] Yeah to be honest, despite having won nothing yet, a lot of our players will be deserving big upgrades. As much as we're looking to hit a "golden era", if you look carefully we're only in this situation because we have a lot of our younger players hitting form while still on their formative contracts. So we could very well be torn apart in the next year or two, while still not achieving any success. I've been firmly on the "do everything reasonable to keep Payne" train, however when you look at the roster, Walsh is arguably more important to our success. In fact if you look at the upgrades required, it would be hard to see how we do keep them all even if Payne were to take a reasonable $1 - $1.1 million. Herbie & Flegler will save us approx $800k - $1m between them (not including their replacements), but how much of that has already been spent on the upgraded contracts to Cobbo & Carrigan? You'd say that Maam would require a $300k - $400k+ upgrade, and Walsh would need well over $500k extra per year, where does that come from? Fucking over Oates to help foot the bill doesn't help anyone, I would say that the logical decision would be giving Haas a fair (but not ridiculous) offer, and if his manager/family are too greedy to accept it, tell him to walk. [/QUOTE]

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