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Message: [QUOTE="Porthoz, post: 2880176, member: 2221"] It has, including in Origin, and should be. An unconscious person is by definition in a life threatening situation where seconds matter. That is textbook! I get the feeling that the result of Oates injury, as opposed to its symptoms at the time, are being used as the ultimate reasoning for those disagreeing with the decision. In this case, Oates hit his head violently, fell uncontrolled face down and convulsing. It really doesn't get much worse than that... [/QUOTE]

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