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Message: [QUOTE="Thelmus, post: 3185693, member: 8988"] As I said 9th to 12th is reasonable. Enough wins against the lesser teams to make us competitive and the occasional upset. My point was as fans we are an impatient lot, and the potential arrival of a second Brisbane will only worsen that. I'm counting on Walters to get the most out of what we have. If we only get 3 or 4 wins like this year he will not survive. Accepting that we will not in any likelyhood make the 8 is demonstrative of how far we have fallen. [/QUOTE]

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