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Message: [QUOTE="Kimlo, post: 3185707, member: 2021"] Even 2019 was a disaster though. Yeah we made the 8, but we had something like the lowest cut off to the top 8 in NRL history (someone can fact check this). I can't hold Walters to the same standards I held Seibold. Seibold came in as the big dog, made a huge song and dance about all this BS he's going to do and having really strong contracts, and signed for 5 years. Walters is coming in as the second choice guy, on exactly the contract Seibold should have signed (2 years/500k-ish), so even if it doesn't work, it's not going to cripple the club the way Seibold did. Just so it's on the record though, anything other than a finals finish is a failure, and that goes for Walters too. Now if we miss out by 2 points it's not the end of the world as long as the trajectory looks good but a bottom 4 finish and I'd be wanting Walters gone too. That's not unrealistic, I think if we sacked Seibold at the halfway mark and went with Gentle, we'd have finished like 10-12 instead. We went from turnstyles to semi-not-shit once Gentle took over in a space of two weeks. All Gentle had to work with was himself and... Wong? I imagine Walters with his assistants are much more formidable. [/QUOTE]

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