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Message: [QUOTE="Coxy, post: 2512815, member: 1764"] fair enough, I don't disagree on the relative risk between lifting and shoulder charges. but I still think the risk from shoulder charges is enough for rules to protect players. as I said, I'm fine with the ban. I'd be fine with allowing them but having massive penalties where there's head contact. the nrl went the ban option. I'm happy to persevere with it, and despite some controversial calls think it hasn't been the disaster the knuckle draggers make it out to be. [/QUOTE]

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