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Message: [QUOTE="BroncsFan, post: 3641962, member: 9052"] I dont disagree that the refs should be allowing quick taps if they wanted the game to flow quicker and I think the admin were trying to achieve a quicker game by bringing in the six again... but I think the other aspect they were trying to sort out under the old penalty rules was goal line defences deliberately giving away penalties to reset their line, because the punishment was not enough of a deterrent. What they havent realised is back in the day teams didnt want to deliberately give away penalties when the team was even at the 30m... it was basically confined to being within the 10m, because you cant take a quick tap inside the 10m so you can reset your line. What's happened now is the punishment for a penalty is no longer a deterrent for about 60m of the field.... so teams generally dont give a shit about giving away a deliberate six again from pretty much anywhere on the field if it stops a quick ptb or being offside on the edges if it stops an overlap. They've basically removed the deterrent of penalties to the point that they will happily give away deliberate six agains anywhere at any time if the team needs it, instead of just on the goal line. The times when a team is really impacted by six agains is when they're not actually trying to give one away, but the ref gives one anyway (ie. the phantom six again). These ones dont allow the defence to reset and most of the time they dont stop a quick ptb... so it's a penalty for slowing down the play, that hasn't actually slowed down the play, and it doesnt make sense or add up... and because we see so many deliberate penalties now we're becoming conditioned to identifying the deliberate penalties that a phantom one doesnt actually look like a penalty anymore... and no one has any idea what its for because it has barely impacted the play. And then we see refs not call the blatant penalties... that everyone now knows and sees... and it pisses people off... because how do they call phantoms that have no impact on the ruck, but miss deliberate penalties that have clearly impacted the ruck. [/QUOTE]

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