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Message: [QUOTE="johnny plath, post: 2955198, member: 8689"] But the reality is the ISC has always been there and always has been the stepping stone into the NRL..in reality very few players would go from NYC to NRL they all spend time in the Intrust comps playing against men preparing for NRL. But there isn't a player in the NRL(apart from the few who predate NYC) who hasn't spent time in NYC as part of their progression. All I'm saying is that we, particularly the QLD clubs, have reduced the quality of the stepping stone that takes players from teenagers into mens competition, and maybe we'll pay the price for it when the impact of that plays out. I also respect your loyalty to the Qcup club systems, but how can you compare the resources of semi-pro organisations against NRL clubs when it comes to player development. Dave Fafita might have played his football at souths, but you can't ignore the bulk of his development has come through being in the Keebra Park high school football program, and the fact he has been in the Broncos system for x years, including full time in the last year at least. Not to mention being in Qld rep teams since he was 15. Even at Mal Meninga cup level, NRL contracted players do all of their pre-season with the NRL club and generally return in time for trials. Then, they train the week with their NRL club and return to their MM team for last session of the week. And its a repeat as the players mature into higher comps, they spend the bulk of their time with their NRL clubs, and go back to their feeder for the captains run at the end of the week. Qcup clubs involvement, particularly as talented players get older becomes less and less and theres good reason for that... the NRL club wants to be responsible for developing their talent, not the semi-pro club that has maybe a full time head coach and a bunch of volunteers supporting him (as devoted and quality as they may be). Do you think that if Dave Fafita had grown up say in Toowoomba and his only development had been u16, 18, 20s with the Western Mustangs that he would now be playing NRL, as opposed to the same Dave Fafita that has benefitted from full time coaching at Keebra Park and the Broncos? My concern is that the Qld NRL clubs have lost a lot in comparision to the NSW clubs whos players spend all of their development time from u16 and up in the NRL club systems, and I guess we'll see how that plays out over time. [/QUOTE]

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