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Message: [QUOTE="Anonymous person, post: 2521368, member: 2115"] nah what the ref said is that there WAS separation from hand/forearm. so in your example, if it rolls from hand to forearm and never separates then its a try* by the rules. i put the * because they dont define separation. if it means complete separation from your body then it would be ruled a try. if it means separation from your hand then it would be no try. as i read it, it means complete separation from body, so it would be a try. IMO, and youre free to disagree because i only saw it in those replays and not since, to get that far down his arm there mustve been separation at some stage. that to me is enough to overrule the try call. like i said, i havent seen it again since, but i remembered it bobbling out of his grasp onto his forearm which then forced it. once its bobbled it has to be regathered by your hands or its a knock on. [/QUOTE]

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