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Message: [QUOTE="Porthoz, post: 2608658, member: 2221"] You don't know where I get my information from. I am not basing this on a fucking article by Danny Weidler. Normally, like most people here, I eventually hear things diluted through the grapevine and have to make my deductions based on that and news I read. Not in this case though... hearing the same stuff from three different sources, all quite reliable and baffingly, all using the same wording (the consummated fact thing is not something three different people would make up), makes me believe it as fact. People like 1910 and nopatience101, more often than not well informed (certainly better than I am), have pretty much confirmed what I said, even if in more diplomatic terms and probably with the knowledge of mitigating factors I don't have (like timing as opposed to sinister). Even Symbolsoup's info in no way contradicts what I said. And I'm sorry I'm too ethically bound for you, and wanting my club to be the same. It certainly must be bliss to have little or no conscience. :takdir: [/QUOTE]

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