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Message: [QUOTE="Morepudding, post: 2926394, member: 8923"] I think you're doing the same thing The broncos coaching and recruitment staff do. You're basing this on everyone at their peak... Boyd - 2015/16 top 2 or 3 fullback in the game. 17/18 Boyd? Lucky to be in the top 10 fullbacks. Oates - A great winger, but not sure he would be in the top 10 either. Roberts - Great centre, doesnt get enough ball but would be one of the better centres. Bird - Safe and reliable, very expensive. Definitely not a weakness. Kahu/Isaako - Good young players, neither in the top 10 though. Milford - 15/16 Milford possibly best 5/8th in the game, 17/18 Milford, too much pressure and not able to play natural game. Nikorima - Wouldnt be a starting half at any other team in the comp, and at some teams, wouldn't even be second or third choice. Lodge - Good forward, has been one of the better performers for us but probably not top 10 front rowers. Macca - Great hooker, Definitely in the top 5 hookers. TPJ - Has been great so far this year, still young though and wouldn't be able to say he is a top 10 forward. Gillett - 2012-15 Gillett yeah really good, 2016+ Gillett? Really slipping. Attack has turned to crap and misses a lot of tackles. Glenn - Gets a lot of hate on here but he is immense in defence often saving Milford close to the line. McGuire - Metres after contact is not great, can't make a 1 on 1 tackle ever, doesn't offload, grossly overrated. BENCH: Thaiday - Played really well in 2011, has lived off that ever since. On current form wouldn't be in the top 30 forwards. Sims - Gets a lot of hate on here as well. He has some good big runs and tries hard and decent offloads. Not amazing though. Offa - Average at best, this guy has racked up a fair few first grade games and I dont know... Average at best. S'ua - Tries hard, has potential, makes a lot of mistakes / penalties though. If you put our 17 down next to the 17 of other teams and only base your assessment on form from this season, and last season, The only team I look at and genuinely think 10 or more of our players are better would be Raiders, Tigers, Rabbitohs, Bulldogs, Knights and Titans. We have already lost to both the Knights and Titans, and were extremely lucky against the Tigers (and couldn't score a try against them). The worrying thing is knowing that we have people like Boyd, Gillett and McGuire all locked up on big money for the next 2-4 years and their peak is long behind them. Bird is also taking up a whole heap of salary cap and if he is staying on the centres it's a huge waste. If you look at it like this there are several other, players in their position on less. Boyd 750k - Players on less / similar amount - Ponga, TTurbo, Gutherson etc. McGuire 550k - Nathan Brown (to me they are the same player, brown is just 300k a season cheaper...) Gillett 600k - Cooper, Hess, Harris, Frizzel I just think we have paid overs for a lot of our players. Bennett has lost his aura because previously players took big salary cuts to play for him / broncos, this isn't the case anymore. He signed Bird on $750k because everyone else he tried to renew or went after rejected him. [/QUOTE]

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