RLIF Player of the Year Awards
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ah k. my bad
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how could you say the Dally M player of the year, and basically inarguably the best half of the year, doesnt deserve a run in the 4 nations?Flutterby said:
and how could you say hes not in better FORM than Lockyer? Lockyer hadnt played for what, 8 weeks of footy before the 4 nations? how can you be in good form when you havent played for 3 months? and in that time, Carney was carving up. he doesnt have to be 'the very best' to get a spot in a representative team, he just has to be the best for that spot at the time - and you cant deny that Carney has been the best in that spot for at least the last half of the season and then the finals. yes, he was better than Lockyer, because he played more games and dominated more games than Lockyer. and quite frankly, Lockyer hasnt done anything standout-ish in the 4 nations so far, has he? Carney MORE than deserves a shot IMO. in all likelihood, Carney and Thurston are the Australian halves for the foreseeable future - why not get him started in a dead rubber?
who won the Dally M Coach of the Year? Bennett?Aeetee said:
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thats great, but im asking why you believe that. if you cant back up your beliefs/opinions, dont mention them. why do you think Carney doesnt deserve it, given that he was the standout half of the year and was awarded player of the year? why doesnt he deserve it over someone who hadnt played for 3 months before the 4 nations, and even when he was playing, wasnt playing to the standard of Carney?Flutterby said:
OXY-351 said:
Dally M means shit all. Should Matt Orford or Preston Campbell have been selected in the Australian sides on recent years?[/quote:1xtg7duz]
yes.
Incumbency is a stupid, stupid thing in rugby league when it comes to rep matches, because the length of time between matches means what happened 12 months ago has no effect on whats going on now. who gives a $hit if you 'got the job done' 12 months ago? does that mean youre the best man for the job now? in sports like rugby union incumbency is an ok thing because they play matches every month basically. players actually get in 'form' for their country. in league, theres no such thing as 'international form', because you only play a game every 6 months if youre lucky.
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Anonymous person said:
Dally M means shit all. Should Matt Orford or Preston Campbell have been selected in the Australian sides on recent years?[/quote:10pbxxfe]
yes.
Incumbency is a stupid, stupid thing in rugby league when it comes to rep matches, because the length of time between matches means what happened 12 months ago has no effect on whats going on now. who gives a $hit if you 'got the job done' 12 months ago? does that mean youre the best man for the job now? in sports like rugby union incumbency is an ok thing because they play matches every month basically. players actually get in 'form' for their country. in league, theres no such thing as 'international form', because you only play a game every 6 months if youre lucky.[/quote:10pbxxfe]
So you would be happy for Thurston to have been dropped as Australian halfback a few years ago in favour of Orford?
Good club player <> Good rep player
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just quickly.. Gareth Ellis was a f*cking gun this year. well deserved.
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if orford was playing better, yes.OXY-351 said:
im not sayng that just because Carney won the Dally M he should automatically get chosen - as we all know, people have won dally Ms when they shouldnt have. but even disregarding Carneys dally m win, he was in superb form for the second half of the season, much better than Lockyer.
if orford was in better form than Thurston for half the season leading up to the tests, then sure, drop Thurston for him. no problems with that from me.
if orford was playing better, yes.Anonymous person said:
im not sayng that just because Carney won the Dally M he should automatically get chosen - as we all know, people have won dally Ms when they shouldnt have. but even disregarding Carneys dally m win, he was in superb form for the second half of the season, much better than Lockyer.
if orford was in better form than Thurston for half the season leading up to the tests, then sure, drop Thurston for him. no problems with that from me.[/quote:2j250u95]
Origin form doesn't count for anything?
