Sharks under investigation for salary cap breaches

Jedhead said:
But the question must remain forever now - did they win it fair and square?
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The answer to that will be decided by the NRL. If they rule it's legit then that's it. Doesn't matter about speculation because it's like a forward pass, once ruled on it doesn't matter what we think. It's done. I know I don't care due to only caring about the ones the Broncos win.
 
Huge said:
Yes, they're not popular around here and quite a few just can't forgive me for liking them before the Broncos were born. Nobody was really concerned about them before they became a force in recent years and old beliefs persisted (we'll smash the sharks, they're easybeats) for a long time. Still, **** em, they've got all the sympathy they're getting from me since they won a gf.
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I don't buy into that, I had a lot of respect for the Sharks during the mid to late 90's, they were a real force even if they didn't win a premiership(weren't far off really), played quality football and players you could like. I don't dislike the Sharks today because they won a premiership, I dislike the use of peptides and the attitude surrounding it by the club and players, I even think that is far worse then the salary cap drama atm which is more an example that the salary cap is a flawed model that doesn't work.
 
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GCBRONCO said:
I don't buy into that, I had a lot of respect for the Sharks during the mid to late 90's, they were a real force even if they didn't win a premiership(weren't far off really), played quality football and players you could like. I don't dislike the Sharks today because they won a premiership, I dislike the use of peptides and the attitude surrounding it by the club and players, I even think that is far worse then the salary cap drama atm which is more an example that the salary cap is a flawed model that doesn't work.
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They are cheats and they admitted cheating. Surely if they had key players being paid over the cap in that side that won the premiership they have to be stripped
 
Huge said:
Yes, they're not popular around here and quite a few just can't forgive me for liking them before the Broncos were born. Nobody was really concerned about them before they became a force in recent years and old beliefs persisted (we'll smash the sharks, they're easybeats) for a long time. Still, **** em, they've got all the sympathy they're getting from me since they won a gf.
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I just want to give shit to my mates who have supported them all those years for a single lift of the trophy. The pain of losing it, oh, thinking about their faces. So great.
 
Morkel said:
Sure. We have enough to lose. If you knew me you’d know I’d support zero tolerance. Any player, manager, and club signatories caught need to be rubbed out for the duration of the player’s contract. And relevant seasons declared invalid. Should clean it up. Would have set a precedence in 2010 if the NRL weren’t gutless.
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I wanted to find out how many clubs you'd be stripping. Seven premiers from 2000-2010.

All these premiers/Grand finals were over the cap it's a pretty sad indication of the use of the cap.

Roosters in 2002
Panthers in 2003
Bulldogs and Roosters 2004 from the Grand Final
Broncos and Storm 2006 from the Grand Final
Storm 2007
Storm 2008
Storm 2009
Dragons 2010
Manly 2013
 
cakeGG said:
Don't forget the 2015 Cowboys. Their dodgy chairman also being a property developer and giving 10+ players free houses. This is why I despise that club. Unlike Melbourne it got swept under the carpet.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-...ys-players-property-deals-above-board/6654168
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I don't think there is any issue there. It would have taken them all of 3 minutes to use RP Data to find the value in the area. Given journos all have access to that, it would have been found out if it were dodgy.
 
Nashy said:
I don't think there is any issue there. It would have taken them all of 3 minutes to use RP Data to find the value in the area. Given journos all have access to that, it would have been found out if it were dodgy.
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There has been heaps of shit that has happened in Townsville that never made it to the papers, more specifically, never been reported by the journos. The game means too much to them up there. Not "allegations" either, this is the word face-to-face with the late Graham Murray.

The NRL just don't want to know about anything wrong with premiership teams. The Storm fucked the history books enough and the NRL don't want it to happen any further. If there's a way to pretend it didn't happen, they'll make sure it didn't happen.
 
Wolfie said:
They are cheats and they admitted cheating. Surely if they had key players being paid over the cap in that side that won the premiership they have to be stripped
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Where did they admit to cheating the cap ? From what Flanagan said they didn't spend up to the ceiling or full amount for quite some years. He claims that it's about a tpa that wasn't reported. He also claimed it wasn't a great deal. If they weren't over the cap then they didn't cheat. I think maybe you should wait to hear about the findings before making claims that are not yet proven.
 
Huge said:
Where did they admit to cheating the cap ? From what Flanagan said they didn't spend up to the ceiling or full amount for quite some years. He claims that it's about a tpa that wasn't reported. He also claimed it wasn't a great deal. If they weren't over the cap then they didn't cheat. I think maybe you should wait to hear about the findings before making claims that are not yet proven.
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Well if Flanagan said so then case closed, I mean he wouldn’t have any reason to lie.
 
Huge said:
Where did they admit to cheating the cap ? From what Flanagan said they didn't spend up to the ceiling or full amount for quite some years. He claims that it's about a tpa that wasn't reported. He also claimed it wasn't a great deal. If they weren't over the cap then they didn't cheat. I think maybe you should wait to hear about the findings before making claims that are not yet proven.
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I never said a thing about them cheating the cap when I said they admitted cheating.
 
Morkel said:
There has been heaps of shit that has happened in Townsville that never made it to the papers, more specifically, never been reported by the journos. The game means too much to them up there. Not "allegations" either, this is the word face-to-face with the late Graham Murray.

The NRL just don't want to know about anything wrong with premiership teams. The Storm fucked the history books enough and the NRL don't want it to happen any further. If there's a way to pretend it didn't happen, they'll make sure it didn't happen.
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That's extremely tin foil hat.

You can say what you like about the NRL being useless, but they would not let systematic cheating of the cap go without so much as a mention. The damage it could do to the organisation, and those involved in such a cover up would be criminal.

Our media is shit, but to suggest our media would all pull together to make sure it didn't get out, is pretty laughable. There are too many ***** and egos in the media.
 
Wolfie said:
I never said a thing about them cheating the cap when I said they admitted cheating.
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Oh, I thought you said they cheated the cap when you wrote "surely if they had key players being paid OVER THE CAP in that side that won the premiership".
 
Huge said:
Oh, I thought you said they cheated the cap when you wrote "surely if they had key players being paid OVER THE CAP in that side that won the premiership".
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There’s an “if” there champ. Maybe you should take your own advice and read better, comprehend better.
 
Huge said:
Oh, I thought you said they cheated the cap when you wrote "surely if they had key players being paid OVER THE CAP in that side that won the premiership".
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You thought wrong! I never actually said once they cheated the cap. I said they were cheats. That wasn't part of the first sentence though, I just punctuated it badly.

They are a horrible club IMO. They are cheats, they admitted it, and they pretty much got away scott free with cheating. Peptide Paul and his gang should have been dealt with far more harshly.
 
Wolfie said:
You thought wrong! I never actually said once they cheated the cap. I said they were cheats. That wasn't part of the first sentence though, I just punctuated it badly.

They are a horrible club IMO. They are cheats, they admitted it, and they pretty much got away scott free with cheating. Peptide Paul and his gang should have been dealt with far more harshly.
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Ha ha ha ha, right. The first sentence was about the drug scandal from 6 or so years ago and the next sentence was about the tpa. Sure thing buddy. Methinks you're being slippery with the truth, whatever.

I'll say one thing though, I told a lie once like everyone else on the planet has I'm guessing. I don't think everyone else on the planet is a liar because of it. I don't see any connection and I wouldn't link the two events for any club, not just my old favourite team the Sharks. That's just me though.
 
Huge said:
Ha ha ha ha, right. The first sentence was about the drug scandal from 6 or so years ago and the next sentence was about the tpa. Sure thing buddy. Methinks you're being slippery with the truth, whatever.

I'll say one thing though, I told a lie once like everyone else on the planet has I'm guessing. I don't think everyone else on the planet is a liar because of it. I don't see any connection and I wouldn't link the two events for any club, not just my old favourite team the Sharks. That's just me though.
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I'm not lying. I was talking about their drug cheating ways. I've got no reason to lie about anything. I'd say if I was talking about this new possible low for their football club, but I wasn't.
 
Wolfie said:
You thought wrong! I never actually said once they cheated the cap. I said they were cheats. That wasn't part of the first sentence though, I just punctuated it badly.
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...and therein lies the mistake. Discussing with Huge the Sharks cheating ...and with bad grammar, was never going to end well. :wink:
 
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