Second Brisbane NRL Bid

I also think the Bears are better prepared to enter the league than any other bid. They've got sponsors, 7,000 paid members (memberships are only $15 or so tho), a coach and board, a home stadium, offices, and now John Singleton has signed on as a part-owner. It's a very complete bid, even at this early stage.
 
If I was earning 200k a year and living in PNG I would devote 199k to security. The rest would be enough to live off for 2 years over there.

CQ bid is ticking a lot of boxes, haven't got a stadium but have got funding approved form both govt and opposition if they get a team in.
 
Je$ter said:
If I was earning 200k a year and living in PNG I would devote 199k to security. The rest would be enough to live off for 2 years over there.

CQ bid is ticking a lot of boxes, haven't got a stadium but have got funding approved form both govt and opposition if they get a team in.
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It's a great area for a league team but they don't seem to be working as hard on their bid as WA, Bears or the Bombers.
 
dukey said:
I also think the Bears are better prepared to enter the league than any other bid. They've got sponsors, 7,000 paid members (memberships are only $15 or so tho), a coach and board, a home stadium, offices, and now John Singleton has signed on as a part-owner. It's a very complete bid, even at this early stage.
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Sounds like the Rabbits re entry bid.
 
Nashy said:
Never lived on a tropical Island have you?
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Not permanently, have you?
Can't be worse than most european countries... (if you have money, which is the premise we're coming from)
 
dukey said:
I also think the Bears are better prepared to enter the league than any other bid. They've got sponsors, 7,000 paid members (memberships are only $15 or so tho), a coach and board, a home stadium, offices, and now John Singleton has signed on as a part-owner. It's a very complete bid, even at this early stage.
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All true, and I know a few Bears fans that truly deserve their team back for all the hard work they've put in.

But, and it's a big but, how will the Bears bid be beneficial to the game?
WA is a shoe in for mine. Perth needs an NRL team! Besides it will open a new timeslot for the TV broadcast, and thus more revenue from a new deal.
Brisbane 2 will likewise bring the most money from a TV deal point of view, besides having the largest pool area to draw fans and sponsors from, despite having to share it with the Broncos.
Wellington/Christchurch would come second for me if they had a serious enough bid, but I'd still prefer them to the Bears as they are now, simply because they bring nothing more to the table than the souffs did at the time of their readmission. Look how that turned out.

CQ, PNG and Adelaide probably need a bit more time...
 
Difference between Souths and the Bears is that the Bears have reinvented themselves as a Central Coast team. As I've pointed out before, it's a large area with a strong league following and a stadium ready to go. You lock in hundreds of thousands of CCoasters, plus you win back the North Sydney fans lost during the Northern Eagles debacle. Think of it less as 'expansion' and more as 'consolidation'.
Pros and cons of it aside, Greg Florimo and co have done more than any other bid team to build an attractive option so far.
 
dukey said:
Difference between Souths and the Bears is that the Bears have reinvented themselves as a Central Coast team. As I've pointed out before, it's a large area with a strong league following and a stadium ready to go. You lock in hundreds of thousands of CCoasters, plus you win back the North Sydney fans lost during the Northern Eagles debacle. Think of it less as 'expansion' and more as 'consolidation'.
Pros and cons of it aside, Greg Florimo and co have done more than any other bid team to build an attractive option so far.
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You're being highly optimistic there, probably more like utopic, unless you want to count the people that will occasionally show an interest for how the CC Bears are doing.

Besides that, I agree with what you're saying, but it still doesn't benefit the game as well as the other bids (WA, Bris2, NZ, CQ).

Between Newcastle and Wollongong, there are 10 NRL teams; that's an area with a radius of less than 150 km!
Do we really need an 11th team there, when there are only 6 for the rest of Australia and New Zealand, or do we want to expand our brand and capture bigger markets?

Ideally, 3 Sydney franchises should fold/merge to allow for an 18 teams comp, including those from WA, Bris2/Ipswich, NZ, CQ and CC).

Looking at it from a business perspective at this point, Sharks and Souffs should go, and a merger of Dogs and Chooks would be ideal... From an emotional perspective, this will probably never happen.
 
Well when I say 'lock in' I just mean you give those people an NRL side to follow before the AFL creep into the area.
 
Souths should definitely stay, they are one of the few profiting clubs in the league and have strong membership numbers.

Sharks are useless and should definitely go. I can't see two Sydney teams going anywhere, if any team is going it's the Sharks and even that seems massive to happen.
 
The Sharks are geographically redundant. Dragons cover the area from St George down to Wollongong. The only problem with giving the Sharks the flick is you alienate all their fan.
 
So are souffs, their area can easily be covered between the dogs and chooks. One of those three needs to go and the other 2 should merge.

Despite their memberships numbers, souffs attendances are generally very poor, as are the chooks to be fair.
The dogs are by far the best suipported, but the chooks have the rich sponsors, while souffs have Rusty and are stuck right in the middle of chooks and dogs territory... Easy choice really.
 
dukey said:
The Sharks are geographically redundant. Dragons cover the area from St George down to Wollongong. The only problem with giving the Sharks the flick is you alienate all their fan.
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All 10 of them?
Waste of a club in this competition IMO.

@Porthoz, I don't think you could get rid of Dogs, Souths or the Roosters.
Dogs are the most supported club in Sydney, Souths are a profitable club and even though the Roosters are a waste of oxygen they have extremely rich board members who also hold high positions in the game so it would never happen. That and they're a foundation club, so hard to see that happening.

I can't see any Sydney club getting the boot if the Sharks are seemingly so secure then there's no chance of another club being close to a merger or boot.
 
dukey said:
It's a great area for a league team but they don't seem to be working as hard on their bid as WA, Bears or the Bombers.
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I dunno about that man they have put in a lot of work, it probably just doesn't get the publicity of the others. They've already got a fair staff on board with former Cowboys CEO Dennis Keefe taking the CEO position.

The guy behind the bid is one of the richest men in Qld, plus with the backing of the mining industry money won't be an issue. You would get people from Mackay to Bundaberg travelling in for games (similar to how the Cowboys get large out of town numbers) plus all the places out west. I suppose I have a local bias however it could def be viable.
 
Je$ter said:
I dunno about that man they have put in a lot of work, it probably just doesn't get the publicity of the others. They've already got a fair staff on board with former Cowboys CEO Dennis Keefe taking the CEO position.

The guy behind the bid is one of the richest men in Qld, plus with the backing of the mining industry money won't be an issue. You would get people from Mackay to Bundaberg travelling in for games (similar to how the Cowboys get large out of town numbers) plus all the places out west. I suppose I have a local bias however it could def be viable.
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Yeah, from what I'm hearing, the CQ bid is a lot more advanced in terms of government backing etc than Brisbane 2. They just haven't made the big song and dance about it. I hear they've basically got affirmed funding from the government to build a stadium in Rocky.

Brisbane 2 doesn't even have a ground sorted out. They were hoping to share Suncorp but that's just not going to happen unless they can somehow get the local residents to approve a total change to the annual event limits.
 
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